Last update: 2015-08-24

Children’s Museum of Houston: Let your mind come out to play! with Dr. Cheryl McCallum


Mercy:This interview with Doctor Cheryl McCallum is the stuff my dreams are made of. Allow me to tell you why. Parents, we all know to get our kids to eat broccoli by covering it up with cheese. I started this podcast because I wanted to find fun, exciting places for kids to visit where they don’t realize they’re being schooled. 


 The one place that comes to my mind that embodies this concept perfectly is the Children’s Museum of Houston. Kids can spend days there having buckets of fun without realizing they are actually learning. Seriously, their tagline is: can your mind come up to play? 

This interview with the director of education herself, Doctor Cheryl McCallum. For anyone who doesn’t know her, she is a legend. She has been the director of Children’s Museum of Houston for over 20 years. In 2013 Doctor McCollum was named a Champion-of-Change by the White House! One of only a select group of 12 people recognized for doing extraordinary things to inspire and empower their community. Get this. This place caters to over 800,000 visitors a year and over 250,000 through outreach programs Their programs have been replicated in many other cities around the US. She’s a wealth of insight and her ideas are applicable no matter where you are in the world. 

What I gained most from this interview was this epic advice: expose kids to different interests and see what they gravitate to. For us parents, this is quite mind-bending because it is so easy for us to push kids into what we want for them, which might not be what they necessarily excel in. She can explain this much more eloquently than me, so with that we start the interview with no further ado. 


Mercy:      Hello to all our listeners and thank you for joining me on entertain to educate my child. Today is our honor to have Doctor Cheryl McCollum on the show. Thank you for joining us.


Cheryl:Hello. You’re welcome. I’m glad to be here.


M:Would you tell us a little bit about yourself?


C:Yeah. I’m actually the Director of Education at the Children’s Museum of Houston.




C:And yeah. I’ve been here for about 21 years helping to… helping to lead our work with exhibits and outreach in the Houston community.


M:You lost me for a second there. Director of education in a Museum?


C:Yeah. That’s right. Some people might think that that doesn’t really mix but actually the mission of the Children’s Museum and most Children’s Museums is education. So we really… we want to provide families with opportunities to come have fun learning experiences with their children and actually we hope that those learning experiences have a substantial influence on their learning in school and home beyond their experience here at the museum.


M:Now, I have to tell you, I’m a little biased because the Children’s Museum of Houston is one of the favorite places that I take my child.


C:Oh, that’s good to hear. 


M:Yes. Because the whole reason that I started this show was because we are all so busy. Most of us work five days a week, you have one day to go to a place of worship so you actually only have one day in a week where you can take your kids out. And I wanted to find out some places such as yourself what makes it worthwhile to spend our family’s most precious resource which is TIME, at your place?


C:Well, I think there are several reasons that it’s worthwhile. I think one of my favorites is to hear parents tell me stories about… maybe there’s a Saturday or a Tuesday or whenever that they’re going to have special family time and they wake up in the morning and they go in, their kiddies are having breakfast and they say, “hey what do you all want to do today?” And the kids say, “I want to go to the Children’s Museum!!!”. What better could we hope for with our organization that our primary target of folks who we really want to come here are saying that this is the place that they want to be? so I just… I think that that is a testament to the fact that our work is fun enough for kiddies that they want to be here and then on the parent side, I think that parents really enjoy their time here with their kiddies because they get to see them doing really, really fun things that they enjoy and one of the things that we find out from parents who come to the museum is that they learn more about what their kids are interested in and so if their kiddies have a favorite exhibit or a favorite activity then it gives them other ideas for things that they could do with their kiddies beyond visit here to the museum.


M:Well, that’s actually the focus of this podcast. So it’s to say, if you only had one place you could choose, how can you kill as many birds as possible with that one stone? Like you said, you’re going to augment what they’re learning in school and how do you think that ties into helping with class work and learning later on in high school and college?


C:Well, I can give you one example. I can give you a couple of examples but I’ll start with this one and then if you want more I’ll give them to you. We have this one exhibit in the museum called Kidtropolis and I think it’s a favorite of kids for sure for different reasons at different ages. But Kidtropolis is a kid city. It’s run by kids, it’s built for kids and there are nine businesses there and every child who comes into the museum gets this little card that looks like a credit cards. It’s actually called a kid card and it Kidtropolis it serves as their debit card or their bank card. And so when they go in, they can use that card in any of the five Kidtropolis machines and I really love to tell kiddies when they come in and I’m handing them the card I like to say, here’s your bank card for Kidtropolis and it has 40 Kidtropolis bucks on it. And I always say, “they’re fake, of course” and they give me a grim like, “I knew that they were fake.” So they can take them in and they use that card in Kidtropolis to… they can put money in their bank account, they can take money out of their bank account but I think the beauty of Kidtropolis is how they use this financial system and begin to understand how financial systems work and so in those nine businesses kids can get a variety of jobs in each one of those nine businesses. So they basically go into one… like for example, we have a news studio.


M:The news studio where they… okay.


C:Yeah. Where they can do… they can be on camera, they can be a director, they can be a reporter. And so they go into the news studio and they can go up to their job center and they pick which job they want to have that day. They get this little lanyard that they put around their neck that says, I’m the director. And then all they have to do is look on the back of that and they can see what their job is as the director while they’re in the new studio. And so they can do those jobs. Then they can go get a paycheck and they can take it and deposit it into their account with their bank card. So basically takes kids full cycle. To be able to do something that they’ve never really been able to do before. They can go get a job, they can do the work, they can get the pay and then they can deposit the pay even to the extent that they decide whether or not their deposit to go into their savings or their checking account in their bank account. And where else can children get that kind of real world experience to apply what they’re learning in school with addition, subtraction, financial literacy which is one of the core concepts that’s recently been added to the state standards for children in public schools.


M:Do you know I have never thought of it like that. If you bring the kids there, just let them run around and see what they gravitate to. Is that what you mean? And then that’s the way of discovering their interests and learning? Because I know you have the chef stations where they can even cook. You have the place where they can go be a vet. So as parents you can just watch and see what they like. That’s pretty cool.


C:Yeah, that’s right. And what we see in Kidtropolis specifically and we see this in other exhibits in other ways is that the younger children oftentimes will gravitate towards the things that they see happening around them. For example, young kiddies are going to with their parents to the grocery store all the time. And so what they see their parents doing is basically selecting which groceries they want, putting them into their basket and then checking out through the checkout stand. So the youngest of children can then role-play or emulate what they see their parents doing where they’re in control of that activity which is a wonderful way for them to begin practicing skills that they… that’s way ahead of maybe what they would normally be able to do. But then, as you see kids grow and gain more understating of the way that a grocery store works then maybe middle aged kiddies say seven, eight, nine, they want to come in and they want to restock the groceries because they know that’s a job within the grocery store. The younger kids might not even realize that really yet but when they get a little bit older they realize that… well, there’s a function where kids have to restock or kids need to be a cashier so I need to be able to check people out. And then as the kids get even older say 10, 11 and 12, when they go into the grocery store they want to be in charge. I want to be the manager, I want to train the cashiers, I want to select the stockers, I want to recruit stockers to be employees in my store and so it’s interesting. The trajectory of the choices that kids make just with a little prompting sometimes on our part of staff or on parents’ part in helping them with their experience to go through that entire kind of range of activity over a period of years just in one little exhibit area like the market.


M:You know what? I have already learned something from you and I’m so glad because I think that one of my important roles as a parent is to let my kid be who she is going to be and without having a way… like you said, of having them try different things, then maybe I’ll just push her to be what I think she should be. And that’s an important way of discovering your kid’s talent and interests. Wow. That’s amazing.


C:Yeah, agreed. Yeah. And then I’ll just describe… give one other example of another area. We have an exhibit called invention convention where kids can go in and they can invent their own stomp rocket or their own airplane or their own car out of Legos and then once they design it and they build what they want to have as a vehicle then they can test it in different testing zones. We have a flight cage for everything that flies and you can…




C:When you build your airplane you can launch it in the test cage, the launch cage and you can see does it perform the way I want it to or does it go to the right or to the left and I really wanted it to go straight. And then you can pull it back out of a launch cage, bring it back to the design station, you can redesign it, reengineer it and then you can fly it again and see if your reengineering did what you wanted it to do as far as performance goes. And so in this particular exhibit one of the things that I think is really helpful on the part of parents is helping kids stay within that cycle of design, test, redesign, test to the extent that they can so that they really understand that that is the cycle of design, development, prototyping. And so if my child was to go into invention convention and they were going to build an airplane and fly the airplane then once they get it to the test cage and they fly the airplane then I might just ask them a kind of relaxed series of questions that said, wow. Look where your airplane went. Is that what you wanted it to do? Was there anything different that you wanted your airplane to do and based on the child’s response, if there was something that they wanted to do then I’d say, oh well let’s take it back over there and mess with it a little bit more and see if we can get it to do that. So I think there are cues that parents can provide to kids as they’re in the museum. Not that they need to necessarily be forceful in their direction about what they’re doing but just little questions that help them investigate a little bit more deeply into what they’re doing.


M:Yowzer! You know what? The first time I came to the Children’s Museum was already as an adult because I was bringing my child. I hesitated for a long time but you know how kids talk and she found out from other kids that it’s a cool place to go. But whenever I got there I could not understand why that is not required in the curriculum because just from your explanation right now it seems to me that if I’m the teacher for example, it should be easier to take the kids there and learn the concept practically. Experientially. And then take them back to the class and then explore it from a textbook. Is that backwards to do?


C:No, no. totally. I mean, you’re exactly on the right path for the way kids learn naturally and so there are lots of teachers who do take us up on an offer to bring their classrooms here to the museum. So we probably have… I don’t know. Close to 70,000 kids who come through every year with their classroom and it could be preK classrooms to 5th grade classrooms based on teachers coming to the museum and having seen just what you described that what we have to offer here fits so well with what they’re doing in the classroom. That it gives kids a hands on way to experience it and basically build and solidify their learning in the classroom. The only thing that’s hard about that is that, if I were a teacher, I would want to do what you described once a week. I’d want to bring my classroom here once a week to…


M:All the time.


C:Yeah. To study these things that we hadn’t… that I don’t have the tools and materials to explore in a way that we have it built here at the Children’s Museum. And yet there are constraints for that. I mean, if it’s too costly for busing to bring the kids here they can’t get away from the cost run for that amount of time, with that level of frequency oftentimes just because of other pressures and so that’s why I think parents who have the ability to bring their kids here in a unique position to kind of be that support where they can bring their kids here even though their teachers can’t do it every week or every month or whatever and they can have that same support structure that then influences kids’ ability to continue their learning in a classroom with the kinds of foundational knowledge that they can gain here at the museum.


M:I think I told you earlier that I’ve even… I don’t choose the word intimidation but I was so nervous to ask for an interview because that’s just honestly one of my favorite places. Because like you said, they come and have fun while they’re learning and that’s… if I had to get my daughter to do homework, that’s a fight. Versus come out there, she has fun and doesn’t even realize all those things that she’s learning and that makes my work as a parent so much easier because it lowers that resistance that we all have.


C:That’s why I love working here.


M:I believe you.


C:Especially hearing some parents like you about the appreciation that you have for the opportunity to have a place like this in Houston to bring your kiddie so…

M:Right. And the other thing that I wanted to ask you, what do you like the best in the museum?


C:Wow. What do I like the best in the museum? It’s hard. Sometimes I do tours for people and it feels like every exhibit that I walk into I want to say, oh and this is my favorite. So what do I like best in the museum? I would say that what I like best about the museum is that I can be working in my office and I’m dealing with whatever you deal with in an office which sometimes is not the most pleasant thing or it can be stressful or working on deadlines or whatever. All I have to do is walk into the museum and it plants a permanent smile on my face. And the reason that happens is because I get to see families interacting in a way that you described that you interact with your daughter in the museum. So I get to see them learning, experiencing, having fun together, not even realizing they’re learning because they’re having so much fun and just that family interaction and family learning that I think is so core to kids having the support that they need to be successful learners and not only successful learners but to really enjoy learning and want to investigate on their own. 


M:The other thing that I like… if I may say so, is after coming to the museum, it gives you ideas as a parent. I’ll tell you, in my case, I took my daughter home and I’m like, A-HA. I can do this. So I put a pot of water to boil and then I called her and told her, “See? When it reaches a boiling point it turns from liquid to vapor!!!” And she was looking at me like, “you mean evaporation?”. “uum, Okay. And when it reaches the cold, glass surface it turns from vapor to liquid and drips.” She was like, “I do know that’s condensation.” It gives you a chance to get in touch with what your kids know, how much they’re learning, how they’re doing. It gives you ideas to carry back home: when you go throw the trash you start doing centrifugal force. It just gives you ideas that you can carry back home.


C:I’m going to make a suggestion to you. If you haven’t seen these yet. We have a guy on staff… we do a lot of things through outreach that also help parents gain ideas like that that you’re gaining naturally to do with your kiddie at home. And one of the things that I think is just super accessible for families is called our “oh wow moments.” So we’ve got this guy on staff and his character name… his real name is Keith Ostil but his character name is Mister O. and Mister O does these experiments in the museum and they’re videos and they air on channel two on Saturday mornings. But we also have longer versions of them on our website. On and I think there are over 100 videos at this point. And they’re five minutes long. It’s not a huge watch time but each video talks about a science concept like centrifugal force that you were talking about or the water cycle that you were talking about. Each one talks about a concept like that and it then gives you an experiment most of which you can do at home. You can repeat at home with your kiddies. Your listeners might want to take a look at that and watch some of those videos and have some really fun things to do at home that are related to what we also have in the museum.


M:I did not know that. We will have to check that out. In the meantime, tell me how did you personally get your A-HA moment where you said that letting kids actually have fun is the best way to learn?


C:That A-HA moment I think came over time with me because I’m that kind of a learner. I want to dive into it, I want to get to know it. I mean, when I was a kid I played outside all the time and investigated everything that I could find to learn about and mess with with my hands and build and whatever and so I just think because I needed that kind of experience with my learning and I still do even as an adult that that’s why I got into this style of education. I used to teach kids outdoors and so I worked for Houston Independent School District at one of their outdoor camps where they send fifth graders and I taught environmental science outside in the woods. So we go outside for three hours and we would explore things in the woods or we would go to the little farm that they had there and we would care for the farm animals and learn how they lived and so I think that kind of background in my life helped me appreciate the kind of learning that the museum provides and really want to contribute my career towards helping to ensure in ways that kids and families can have access to these kinds of things.


M:Okay. Now, the thing is you have told us how you have dedicated your life, and we thank you, for providing such a wonderful service. I mean, it’s not something I can take for granted. But I did a survey with my friends on Facebook and a few of my other friends. They also need to ask what’s the best way to manage cost because if you have two children, by the time you add gas, tickets, parking in downtown, all that kind of stuff it kind of adds up a little bit so what would be a way to lower that barrier?


C:There are a couple of different ways to lower that cost and…


M:Oh, good news.


C:Actually three that I’ll tell you about. One thing is that on Thursday nights, every single Thursday night from 5 PM to 8 PM we are open for free to the public. No admission charge whatsoever. You just walk in the door with your family and we invite you in and you’re welcome to visit the museum. That program has been supported by Houston Area foundations for many years. Also corporations because they see the value and the need for us to have a free time. Not every family can come on Thursday nights throughout the year so also we have a partnership with bank of America where people who hold a bank of America card, on the first weekend of every month they get free admission for the cardholder. And so that’s one free admission for a family which helps to reduce cost. And then one other way that I wanted to tell your listeners about is membership to the museum. And so our family membership which means that you can bring four people into the museum at any time throughout the whole year in addition to receiving invitations to special events for members only, that rate is 95 dollars a year. So it means for less than 100 dollars a year you can get your four kids into the museum as frequently as you want to visit. And to me when you look at it, if as a family you’re interested in coming once a month, even once a quarter that pays for itself almost the first and second time that you’ve visited and then the rest of the times that you’re visiting for the year are absolutely free for you. So I really advise people to think about that and we have this program where if you’ve not been to the museum before and you want to come try it out and you think you might come more frequently if you really like it. Well, if you come and you pay admission then before you leave that day you can turn those admission dollars into… towards that family membership and it will be reduced by that amount if you really do enjoy the place and you know you want to come back later.


M:I did not know that.


C:Yeah. Four people. And then many people have families that are larger than that or they want to bring friends a lot more then the family plus membership is for six and that’s 115 dollars so once again it’s a very reasonable way to get into the museum with the level of frequency where you’re going to come maybe four, six or more times a year.


M:Well that is awesome to know. I really did not know that. I knew you had a membership plan which is great because the kids can go play. They’ll be so busy and engaged and if you wanted to you could sit down if you had work to do or something like that, which beats them being glued to their TV.


C:Yeah, yeah.


M:So that’s really good to know. I did not know that.


C:Definitely. One thing I’ll add is that you mentioned parking and so one membership up from that is 150 dollars but it gives you discounted parking so if you do come to the museum really frequently it really helps. It also gives a 10% discount on our store here, our toy store here at the museum. I mean, you can look on our website under membership and it just gives you all those details to make a decision by.


M:Right, but if you don’t kind of know that it might be available you just assume that it’s expensive but now that you know this, I’m already thinking of how many different ways I could work this out. 




M:Because like you said, 150 bucks for a whole year and when you’re walking out and the kids want something from the store… just all those little things, they make the cost much more manageable. So that is great. Awesome to know. So now I’m going to give you a pop quiz.




M:You ready?


C:I hope I pass!


M:What do you think the biggest misconception the public has about your facility?


C:Well, the biggest misconception I would say is related to the fact that we’re called the Children’s Museum of Houston and that we’ve got kind of that ‘museum’ in the name, so some people… even kids who come in on school tours one of the first things that we ask them is, what’s different about this museum and other museums you might go to? We have to encourage the kids that they get to touch things and manipulate things with their hands and we’re inviting them and that’s what we want them to do because they’re used to the term museum. They think, oh well. I look at it but I don't necessarily touch it. And so it’s a museum in a very different way and it’s museum that really is appropriate for kiddies.


M:That’s exactly the same thing I thought. I thought they’d be like blue lines, do not cross. So that was one of my biggest surprises to be honest. And how much time do you think is good to budget?


C:Well, I have to say that I would give a range. I think the minimum time that you want to spend here is two hours. I think if you spend less than two hours then there’s so much to do and kind of takes days to be able to do everything so I think the minimum is two hours. I would say that kind of really a nice time frame is around three to four hours if you can afford the time because kiddies really want to spend that amount of time in the museum. Oftentimes when parents have to have their kids leave after two hours they’re crying because they’re not ready to go.


M:I agree.


C:Which is another good side. They like being here. But I think that three to four hour mark is really pretty ideal.


M:I agree. Or else just make sure that you’re going to be there over and over again.


C:That’s right. 


M:And so everyone who’s not in Houston but wanted to take these things, concepts and ideas we’ve been talking about, what should I you advise them to do?


C:Well, we have some activities on our website like the Mister O videos but I would also recommend that people in other cities… look around and see if there’s a Children’s Museum in your area or a science center in your area. Most of the time Children’s Museums and science centers are very hands on places and great places to go. I think there are over 200 Children’s Museums throughout and then science centers, there are even more of those. And so I think it’s a good thing to know about in your community.


M:I love it. If I had to take my kids in here, you want them to… it has to be worth your time. And something that will be… have an exponential value as you grow up. Am I right?


C:You’re definitely right.


M:Cool. So how about… can you tell us some links or your favorite website that you’d like us to refer to? I’ll have them in the shownotes, but just to give someone a starting point.


C:Yeah. Well, I would say just visit our main site at So and the other one that I mentioned with the Mister O videos. It’s really the same thing except for and you can go there and learn some fun things as well.


M:And last but not least, don’t you have to have other activities that go on… during the summer, you have the Flow Works?


C:Yeah. The Flow Works exhibit is our outdoor exhibit.


M:So what happens now when the weather is changing and it’s getting a little colder?


C:Well, for the outdoor exhibits, families visit those when the weather is right for them to be able to. And our ecostation exhibit which is all about Houston plants and animals. We actually have a building out there that families can go into and just any time of the year they can do activities out there related to Houston’s plants and animals.


M:Wow. Thank you so much. Dr Cheryl McCallum has dropped a lot of value for us and given us so many new insights and things to think about so thank you so much for this interview. Thank you for taking your time to be here.


C:Wonderful to be with you. Thanks so much for including me in your podcast series.


M:It has been my pleasure. I will see you soon. Because it really is an awesome place to be.


C:Thank you.


M:And thank you for all the work you do.


C:Thank you.


M:All right. If you enjoyed this interview with Doctor Cheryl McCallum please make sure to let her know that you heard her on the podcast Educate to Entertain my child. Thank you for listening. Be sure to subscribe and leave reviews and feedback so that I can create the content that you enjoy.


Joel Boggess: "Are YOU the greatest influence on your kids?"

2015-08-04 Length: 28s

Meet Joel Boggess, Podcast Pro and Media Coach and Bestselling Author, Host of the #1 internet radio ReLaunch. He shares his best advice for parents, drawing on his amazing life experiences.

Joel Boggess says his life was somewhat uneventful until when he was five, when he fell off a 30-foot bridge. By the grace of God, he awoke after being in coma for 3 weeks, and the only permanent physical damage was the hearing in his right ear.

If you talk to Joel for exactly 2 minutes, you will figure out that that sequence of events had a profound spiritual impact on his life. It is apparent that he is empowered by the belief we are all here for a reason. He is fueled by a passion to help others develop clarity and confidence.

It is therefore an amazing honor to have Joel on the show.


He is a sought after Coach and featured speaker on international platforms including the world famous Zig Ziglar Organization. He shares his wisdom on being  discerning about the company our kids keep. He also reiterates that we should be cognisant of the fact that we are the primary Influencers in our world.


Joel is the inspiration of my first e-Book, available on AMAZON

Babias Ireri, Playwright/Producer: Let your kids be the Star of their own Creative "Production".

2015-07-27 Length: 22s

Have you ever wondered WHY actors ACT???

I was having a conversation with Babias Nthiga, who is a brilliant actor and acclaimed producer. (Who also happens to be my brother) in Kenya, over Skype, when it occurred to me that I should flip on the mic and record this for others. 

The audio quality is not that hot, seeing as this was impromtu and also. However I thought that the insights he shared will counteract that. 

He breaks down what goes on inside the creative mind.

This discussion sheds light on

the "Character Bible" 

the benefits of immersing yourself in different perspectives

how changing times allow for creative expression

how a project like "a family play" is good for the soul

Can you answer this Question? Why did Noah have to carry a pair of mosquitoes into the Ark?


Kent Trabing finds out why The Introvert of the year is now a podcaster! EPISODE 000

2015-07-23 Length: 42s

Mercy Kay Nthiga likes to say, that growing up in Kenya, she followed all of the shoulds. She did everything she should do. Studied hard in primary school, passed the 8th grade exams, that allow a small % of Kenyans to continue to secondary school, became one of the 5% that graduated secondary school to attend university. Completing university put her in the top few percent of Kenyans. For all that, facing 60% unemployment, it still took her one year to find work. When she did, her paychecks weren’t paychecks, the pay clerk would reach into a petty cash bag for loose change to pay her.

That’s when she determined to find a better way for herself, and her country.

She came to Houston, scrambled through more to become a radiographer.  Remembering her determination, Mercy has started a business to focus on genuine education of children – which Mercy perceives as essential for kids in Kenya as America.  Her business is Entertain to Educate My Child.

Mercy shares how her business will succeed, why she feels triumphant, about her greatest inspiration, her daughter, the Kenyan perspective of life, and how she feels one of the most valuable things she can share with her home country and all people, is her new perspective.

In the final 15 minutes, and this is a first for this podcast – Mercy turns the tables on me – getting me to talk – about the best thing I did to educate my family!

She mentions a few different people you may not have heard of, don’t worry, they are role models to her, some who I have interviewed, like Gary Vaynerchuk, and Taro Fukuyama.

You will love this episode!

Let’s Go!

Interview originally on the Immigrant Entrepreneur Podcast with Kent Trabing.

Mentioned in the interview: Gary Vaynerchuk (your biggest advantage)

Mentioned in the interview: Taro Fukuyama (your biggest advantage)



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